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Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.07.03 12:30:00 -
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Chessur wrote:Yah... Thing is, most of the worm hole exits have cloaky eyes on them. And people will see you. So your cloak is useless then. All they have to do is add you to a watch list- and then they can also determine if you are online or offline. Local is really not that great.
However in the turn of events that you are not spotted- why don't you just get a probing alt? I know this may come as a shock, but getting a covops ship is really cheap, and a much better idea- instead of trying to fly around in a ship that is expensive, has no tank, and has horrible DPS.
Because covops have no tank and horrible DPS. It's no use tackling something if it immediately kills your covops. |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:16:00 -
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Chessur wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Chessur wrote:Yah... Thing is, most of the worm hole exits have cloaky eyes on them. And people will see you. So your cloak is useless then. All they have to do is add you to a watch list- and then they can also determine if you are online or offline. Local is really not that great.
However in the turn of events that you are not spotted- why don't you just get a probing alt? I know this may come as a shock, but getting a covops ship is really cheap, and a much better idea- instead of trying to fly around in a ship that is expensive, has no tank, and has horrible DPS. Because covops have no tank and horrible DPS. It's no use tackling something if it immediately kills your covops. Do you not understand the concept of a probing alt? Its not your main- its your alt.
Please explain how its nature as an alt stops a covops being casually exploded by the target it's supposed to be tackling, or simply by the Sleepers. |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:39:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:Gypsio III wrote:
Please explain how its nature as an alt stops a covops being casually exploded by the target it's supposed to be tackling, or simply by the Sleepers.
The probing alt isn't there to land tackle or engage with hostiles; the probing alt's only job is to locate stuff for the main pilot to mix it up with. Except when it's transiting systems, or in the process of dropping probes, the probing alt is best advised to keep its cloak on and make like a hole in the void.
Ah, I see. The covops scout probes the target, and you warp your main in a gank ship to the victim... who then promptly warps off after seeing the incoming gank ship on dscan. Hmmm. Maybe the covops should have hero-tackled it in the first place? But it has no tank and would just die immediately.
If only there was a tanky tackler capable of probing and covops-cloaking. |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.07.03 22:53:00 -
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Chessur wrote:you realize that it takes less than 30 or so seconds to travel, and then land on a target? The way most people will run from you is if they see the probes. Which shockingly- don't cloak.
There is no loki that can have 500 DPS with 200K ehp, cloak, and probe. Stop pulling numbers out of thin air.
Also a proteus cannot achieve those numbers as well.
Tech three cruisers have been outclassed for some time. As i have said before, you can have a much large target selection with the use of a cheaper- more effective ship. I am not saying that you will never be able to kill things in a tech 3, but I am saying that when it comes to hunting worm hole space, you are choosing a very sub optimal platform.
You don't need to probe targets in anomalies. Even when you do, your probes should be visible for a single scan only, and certainly less time than your ship would be on scan for.
I never mentioned a 500 DPS, 200k EHP Loki. You pulled that, er, "out of thin air"... |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.07.03 23:26:00 -
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Chessur wrote:I can assure you that my Omen navy issue / Scythe fleet isse / Caracal / Phoon + a covops have a much much large engagement profile than your Cloak Proteus + loki
The only person talking about Lokis is you. I never mentioned them.
It's self-evident that cloaky Proteus and another ship can engage more ships than covops and another ship. |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.07.04 07:48:00 -
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Chessur wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Chessur wrote:I can assure you that my Omen navy issue / Scythe fleet isse / Caracal / Phoon + a covops have a much much large engagement profile than your Cloak Proteus + loki The only person talking about Lokis is you. I never mentioned them. It's self-evident that cloaky Proteus and another ship can engage more ships than covops and another ship. To argue otherwise is to argue that a covops is gankier and tankier than a cloaky proby Proteus, and that's just silly.  I am going to argue otherwise. I will take a faster ship that is able to project damage, over a slow super short ranged piece of garbage any day.
A covops cannot project damage. Stop being silly. |
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